Aldi taking on former Toys 'R Us store in Sydenham [Opening on 3rd October 2019]

Plans here

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“Plot twist” :smiley:

Had my fingers crossed for something like tkmaxx but that’s alright.

And how will Bell Green cope with all the traffic? It is frequently jammed up now and you can actually taste the air pollution around the junctions.Aldi are saying there wil lbe another 3000 rtn journeys a day and they have a vested interest in estimating that on the low side.

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I have been to bell green at differing times and days and never have I seen really bad traffic for a ‘retail park’. ( There isn’t currently that much there to draw you so good to see the Aldi!)

And there is always hundreds of spaces, am I missing something? Granted I do not live beside it so apologises.

Will be great not to have to go into the massively congested Catford!

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No one cares if htere are parking spaces or not; the issue is the road congestion o nthe gyratory system and its feeder roads- Southend Lane, Perry Rise and Perry Hill… The council itself state the system is above capacity from their own data.

I suppose if it’s decided (by the council?) that bell green is to exist as retail park then perhaps we might expect some shops people actually want to go to setting up and for those people to be happy about it.

The comment on parking spaces was a general comment but actually how can there be so much congestion but no-one actually in bell green parked?! I wonder if the congestion is just bad traffic management system which may outside of Aldi’s control.

Sorry if it’s a different experience for you.

Permission has just been granted by the council for Aldi to take over the Toys 'R Us building:

DC_18_108701-Decision_Notice-742695.pdf (95.9 KB)

How does everyone feel about their new local supermarket?

  • Pleased to have Aldi in Bell Green
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  • Would have preferred a different supermarket
  • Would have preferred a different shop
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Presumably there may be objections put in…or is it too late for that now?

Paging planning experts @Michael and @jgdoherty

I don’t think objections are possible, as it is already a retail store. We might try asking to have a bit more ecological awareness on the management of the delivery bay area, and wildlife enhancement behind the fencing, but that’s about all. Except for a serious look at the light pollution conditions which I gather the whole retail park is flouting. Basically, hold them to every one of the rules already in place.

I have a great concern about the pollution, but we need a local plan to start tackling that, so please talk to your councillors about it. I wonder whether increasing the dwell-time for visitors by including leisure - children’s soft play etc, might reduce the proportion of pit-stop shoppers? Basically, get shoppers to spend more time and money there, and get more community benefit from each car journey… That can only work if the estate is willing to improve the visit experience, and make it slightly less grim.

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Does anyone have an ETA for the opening?

Excited. And impatient.

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Sad to see yet another multinational setting up in Sydenham but this is life as people just consume and don’t think about where it comes from/ quality of produce and the effect the logistics has on the environment.
This forum should be about promoting local business. So lets start threads promoting where people can find alternatives. Where do we all get our meat and veg from that isn’t a large multinational? What are the good shops and markets and butchers that we recommend and is there much of a price difference. For me this is just another supermarket I will not be going to. Maybe admin can start threads on local businesses to help break people out of the routine of just going to the big shops for sub-par produce? I manage to do nearly all my shopping at Billings, PFC and the small veg shops nearby or the weekend markets and its actually cheaper for some items but the quality is way ahead of what the supermarkets have.

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My New Years resolution was to not spend money at big corporations (particularly Amazon) and reduce packaging waste. Generally I’m doing pretty well not to blow my own trumpet and here is where I get stuff:
Fresh and fruity - fruit and some veg
Billings - meat (particularly mince, bacon and chicken thighs), fish and occasional cheese
The Sausage shop (Beckenham) - sausages, what else?!
Penge Food Hub - typically veg, fish and locally made fridge or cupboard treats
Milk and more - milk, yogurt, eggs, cheese, occasional bits and bobs

Non food pressies - typically Kirkdale Books, Bunka (Forest Hill or Beckenham) or Jumping Bean (Beckenham)

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Hi Cormac, I heartily agree on starting threads for local businesses like Billings - in fact there already is a topic for Billings.

Please do start topics talking about your favourite independents and we will promote widely on social media.

Let’s keep this particular topic focussed on Aldi for those interested in the development (everyone is entitled to their own preferences of course)

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Getting back to Aldi (apologies for the slight tangent!) I always think it has a lot more choice than Lidl and some great own brand stuff (particular the stuff angled towards the healthier crowd - eg: their version of whole earth peanut butter, healthy snack bars and “crisps” etc). Only problem is anytime I used to opt to shop at an Aldi instead of Lidl I’d always buy/spend way more because of all the different stuff!

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I live just behind the retail park. I’m glad about an Aldi personally. Normally I shop at Lidl but have to grab bits from Sainsbury’s because Lidl’s around here aren’t very big - it costs me a lot! An Aldi superstore will save me, & I’m sure others, a bit of cash.

Also never really have a problem with the traffic around there. Usually only sit there for one run of the traffic lights which really isn’t that bad. Especially compared to the Catford bridge travesty down the road.

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They’ve gutted the place and it looks huge.

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Are you speaking as a resident?

Yep, just behind the retail park.

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