Aldi taking on former Toys 'R Us store in Sydenham [Opening on 3rd October 2019]

I don’t think objections are possible, as it is already a retail store. We might try asking to have a bit more ecological awareness on the management of the delivery bay area, and wildlife enhancement behind the fencing, but that’s about all. Except for a serious look at the light pollution conditions which I gather the whole retail park is flouting. Basically, hold them to every one of the rules already in place.

I have a great concern about the pollution, but we need a local plan to start tackling that, so please talk to your councillors about it. I wonder whether increasing the dwell-time for visitors by including leisure - children’s soft play etc, might reduce the proportion of pit-stop shoppers? Basically, get shoppers to spend more time and money there, and get more community benefit from each car journey… That can only work if the estate is willing to improve the visit experience, and make it slightly less grim.

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Does anyone have an ETA for the opening?

Excited. And impatient.

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Sad to see yet another multinational setting up in Sydenham but this is life as people just consume and don’t think about where it comes from/ quality of produce and the effect the logistics has on the environment.
This forum should be about promoting local business. So lets start threads promoting where people can find alternatives. Where do we all get our meat and veg from that isn’t a large multinational? What are the good shops and markets and butchers that we recommend and is there much of a price difference. For me this is just another supermarket I will not be going to. Maybe admin can start threads on local businesses to help break people out of the routine of just going to the big shops for sub-par produce? I manage to do nearly all my shopping at Billings, PFC and the small veg shops nearby or the weekend markets and its actually cheaper for some items but the quality is way ahead of what the supermarkets have.

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My New Years resolution was to not spend money at big corporations (particularly Amazon) and reduce packaging waste. Generally I’m doing pretty well not to blow my own trumpet and here is where I get stuff:
Fresh and fruity - fruit and some veg
Billings - meat (particularly mince, bacon and chicken thighs), fish and occasional cheese
The Sausage shop (Beckenham) - sausages, what else?!
Penge Food Hub - typically veg, fish and locally made fridge or cupboard treats
Milk and more - milk, yogurt, eggs, cheese, occasional bits and bobs

Non food pressies - typically Kirkdale Books, Bunka (Forest Hill or Beckenham) or Jumping Bean (Beckenham)

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Hi Cormac, I heartily agree on starting threads for local businesses like Billings - in fact there already is a topic for Billings.

Please do start topics talking about your favourite independents and we will promote widely on social media.

Let’s keep this particular topic focussed on Aldi for those interested in the development (everyone is entitled to their own preferences of course)

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Getting back to Aldi (apologies for the slight tangent!) I always think it has a lot more choice than Lidl and some great own brand stuff (particular the stuff angled towards the healthier crowd - eg: their version of whole earth peanut butter, healthy snack bars and “crisps” etc). Only problem is anytime I used to opt to shop at an Aldi instead of Lidl I’d always buy/spend way more because of all the different stuff!

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I live just behind the retail park. I’m glad about an Aldi personally. Normally I shop at Lidl but have to grab bits from Sainsbury’s because Lidl’s around here aren’t very big - it costs me a lot! An Aldi superstore will save me, & I’m sure others, a bit of cash.

Also never really have a problem with the traffic around there. Usually only sit there for one run of the traffic lights which really isn’t that bad. Especially compared to the Catford bridge travesty down the road.

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They’ve gutted the place and it looks huge.

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Are you speaking as a resident?

Yep, just behind the retail park.

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Spot on. Catford Bridge is horrendous most of the time yet Bell Green retail park is usually a breeze to get in and out of. Sainsburys is such a horrendously poorly run ‘hypermarket’ and always has been for the 16 years I’ve had to use it. The addition of Aldi is very very welcome for us.

And I too am a resident from two streets away who can just see the top of the back of these units from my bedroom (they are orange lit at night and look a bit like a sunset at a glance!)

I welcome the new Aldi. My mother resides in the properties above the Sports Direct so she is as close to this complex as one can get. I am unsure if people are aware but this is an age restricted block so it is inhabited by the elderly that cannot afford the prices at Sainsburys yet cannot travel further due to health constraints.

I look forward to my mothers pension ceasing to dwindle in a shop that is too expensive for the immediate community considering a large proportion of the block opposite mothers, Orchard Court, appears to be inhabited by those that are on benefits.

With regards to the traffic, I visit mother every other day after work and I stay till night. I am travelling in rush hour and I have never had any delay in reaching mothers due to excessive traffic. There is traffic, but it is moving traffic. The traffic is appropriate for rush hour and then it ebbs away when expected. Admittedly, when there has been road works it has caused delays but that is normal with road works is it not?

There will never be a resolution for all. This is will bring jobs and affordable retail but will impact the surrounding environment. What to do.

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Some progress- you can no longer look straight through it and wiring is going in. I think their Summer 19 opening is looking optimistic though.

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The Aldi recruitment website says November - that seems a bit more realistic!

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Whenever I get a cab using Uber, Kapten or Bolt, the GPS always sends them down the back streets off Perry Vale to avoid the lights at the bottom of the road. This despite the roadworks in Perry Hill.

It is not about delays, it is about air pollution and noise pollution- the areas around the roads there are already at twice the legal limit for air pollution ( maps can be found on Lewisham website) and we don’t want even more with both Aldi and the self- storage. Lewisham council is all for preaching green solutions with one hand by appointing a cycling/walking tsar and total hypocrisy with policies that will allow the go ahead to even more pollution.
It seems a bit strange that none of these Aldi supporters seem able to see the link between traffic and pollution and even stranger that so many join the forums around here only to post about Aldi. One such poster said she would "love to shop at Aldi" (too much ambition i think!) yet that is the only post she ever made???

I cannot even dispute that Jay. The air quality in Lewisham is a joke and the powers that can tackle, address and change it don’t give a hoot. I don’t think the solution is to limit shops though, it is to limit the exhaust fumes so cleaner cars and buildings are needed.
As for noise, its London. If anyone can find a peaceful place away from traffic in London do tell me so I can move there :slight_smile:

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