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Man found with fatal gunshot wounds on Sydenham Road [two men charged]

anon3821395

8 Sep '19

http://news.met.police.uk/news/man-found-with-fatal-gunshot-wounds-in-lewisham-380628

jonnoprice

8 Sep '19

#Lewisham
BREAKING: A young man in his 20s has been shot dead in broad daylight.

Met Police say they were called at 3.45pm to Sydenham Road, #SE26 where a man was found with gunshot wounds.

The victim was pronounced dead at the scene at 3.50pm.

Continued below. pic.twitter.com/AQVeG7cI5d
— London 999 Feed (@999London) September 8, 2019

jonnoprice

8 Sep '19

Should be no big deal - people die all the time from violent crime - but this is on our doorstep…

Gypsyjolee

8 Sep '19

@jonnoprice, having walked unbeknownst past this incident and spending the past couple of hours trying to comfort the parents of the potential victim - regardless of circumstances, trust me, it is a big deal.

Pally

8 Sep '19

“No big Deal” WHAT???

Pauline

8 Sep '19

Thoughts are with the family regardless of the circumstances, condolences at this awful and sad time to all that know the victim. Words won’t make a difference but very sad for the loss of a young life. Take care.

I don’t know the victim but would never wish this on any kid or parent, this could happen to any of us in this day and age sadly.

jonnoprice

8 Sep '19

Of course it is a big deal… shook up by it all.

Pauline

8 Sep '19

@jonnoprice I think your response is absolutely disgusting, especially as a young life has been taken.

Pauline

8 Sep '19

Sorry just saw your last response and realise you probably didn’t mean to come across as you did initially.

Gypsyjolee

8 Sep '19

We’re all in shock @jonnoprice. So, so sad our young people have such anger and hate towards each other. Our thoughts now have to be with the young man who lost his life on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

Gypsyjolee

8 Sep '19

@Pauline,personally I don’t think any harm was intentional

jonnoprice

8 Sep '19

I posted in disgust at what happened. I am appalled by the loss of a life on our high street. “Should be no big deal” is a cynical and ironic comment based on how many senseless deaths there are and how little people seem to care. Apologies if the irony was lost on you. I will delete the damn post if it is so easily misread.

Gypsyjolee

8 Sep '19

Please don’t

Pauline

8 Sep '19

Completely understand.

jonnoprice

8 Sep '19

I do apologise though… it was not a clearly thought out post and easy to misinterpret. RIP to the young man who lost his life.

Pauline

8 Sep '19

The whole culture about postcode areas really scares me as a parent. I don’t know if this is the case here but is happening everywhere right now. It doesn’t matter if you bring your kid up in a bought home, private rented home, or on a block. They all stick by their friends in the area they live in regardless if they live in a five bedroom bought house or a single storey council flat. These young kids need to stop fighting with joining neighbourhoods and maybe we can help with this. Personally I hate the music they all listen too right now, it is aggressive, violent, and encourages kids to get violent with weapons. Happy to help set up a group to try stop this with the younger generation if anyone else is up for it.

Personally I live in a private garden flat but who is to say my teenager son won’t ever get mixed up in this just because I don’t live in a council house. We are all equal!

technicolor

8 Sep '19

Just picked up this report with witness statements - https://news.sky.com/story/man-in-his-20s-shot-dead-in-south-london-11805133.
It seems some people think that he could have shot himself. Very sad for this loss of life.

Gypsyjolee

8 Sep '19

To reiterate whatever the circumstance this is just an awful situation.

I was with the mum of the potential victim when she heard this and saw her devaststion. We don’t yet know the specific details of what happened.

IMO, I don’t think any of us are in a position to judge, but we should just be there for each other and try to comfort those that have lost a loved one.

Pauline

8 Sep '19

Take care xx

anon3821395

9 Sep '19

Reportedly he was trying to shoot someone else, but the bullet ricocheted back on him:

@jonnoprice please don’t delete your comment. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on this forum, provided they are civil to other members (and you always are)

JMLF

9 Sep '19

Think there is still a lot of unknowns/conjecture around what happened with quite varied bits of info but it does appear the person shot thrmself - (eg: I have read that a shot ricocheted off a car and back but another report says people left the car and the person used the butt of the gun to try and damage the car and it went off). In any case very sad set of events.

anon3821395

9 Sep '19

Video

Police say they are still investigating how he was injured but witnesses say there was an altercation before he accidentally shot himself with a shotgun.

Video recorded by a stunned local resident shows a masked man crouched over the victim, shouting: ‘He’s shot himself – he’s f***ing shot himself’.

He and two other men then run off when a witness appears and calls the emergency services.

The Sydenham shooting was one of three violent deaths in the capital in just 12 hours yesterday. A woman was later stabbed to death before a man was shot dead in Kentish Town in the north of the capital. None of the three deaths are believed to be connected to each other.

Video has emerged of the aftermath of a shooting in Sydenham, south London yesterday. Witnesses claim the man was killed when his own gun went off accidentally

A man is seen laying next to a car with a smashed windscreen. A masked man shouts: ‘He’s shot himself’ before he and two others run off

In Sydenham, police were given extra Section 60 Stop and Search powers to help them track down suspects and prevent any further violence.

The cordon remains in the place at the scene this morning, with police standing guard, and a blue tent has been set up at the spot where the man was found.

A shopkeeper on the high street said: ‘A group of guys were sitting in a car by the bank and a big guy came up to them with a shotgun.

‘They all got out of the car and ran so the guy decided to damage the car with the back of the gun.

‘As he was hitting the windows the gun went off and he shot himself – that’s what we’ve been told.’

There are, however, differing witness statements on how the man came to suffer his fatal injuries.

A 56-year-old woman living nearby said: ‘The bullet bounced off a car window. You can see on the car window where the bullet bounced off it.

‘After it happened, the boy he came to shoot stood there filming him.’

This is the scene where the man was found with gunshot wounds in Sydenham yesterday

Police remain at the scene as detectives attempt to work out how the man was injured

Another resident said the sound of a gun going off was ‘unmistakable.’

He said: ‘I didn’t see anything but I heard the noise – it’s unmistakable. You don’t expect that do you? It’s quite shocking.’

Another local shop keeper said: ‘I was in the shop at the time and heard a loud bang. It wasn’t until a few minutes later when the man next door came and told me what happened and I saw all the police outside.’

A shopkeeper on the high street also said that he and his colleague had also heard the victim had accidentally shot himself.

‘A group of guys were sitting in a car by the [Lloyds] bank and a big guy came up to them with a shotgun.

‘They all got out of the car and ran so the guy decided to damage the car with the back of the gun.

‘As he was hitting the windows the gun went off and he shot himself – that’s what we’ve been told.’

Police and forensics discuss the incident that took place yesterday in Sydenham, Lewisham

Witnesses said the man had attacked a car on the high street before his gun went off

A Met Police spokesman said: ‘One man has been arrested in connection with the investigation and remains in custody at a south London police station.’

Detective Chief Inspector Richard Leonard said: ‘We are still in the early stages of the investigation and our enquiries into how the man came to be fatally injured continue.

‘However, one hypothesis is that the man unintentionally discharged a firearm resulting in his fatal injury.’

In response to the incident, Ellie Reeves, Labour MP for Lewisham West and Penge, tweeted: ‘Shocked and saddened to learn of the fatal shooting in Sydenham this afternoon.

‘My thoughts are with the victim and their family. This violence has no place in our community.’

On Thursday, Perry Jordan Brammer, 15, died after suffering multiple stab wounds during an attack in broad daylight the week before.

A 21-year-old man was arrested in the early hours of Friday morning on suspicion of murder after the attack in Tottenham on August 30.

A second man, aged 25, was also arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender and both remain in custody in a north London police station.

The same week, Santino Angelo Dymiter, 18, was fatally stabbed in an attack in Chadd Green on August 26.

Police and ambulance crews at the scene on Syndenham Road yesterday after the man died

Amrou Greenidge, also 18, died after being deliberately rammed off his bike by a car in Fulham before being attacked as he lay in the street.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson has pledged to ‘come down hard on crime’ and wants to recruit an additional 20,000 police officers.

Writing in the Mail on Sunday, he said: ‘I want to see knives taken off our streets. We have done it before, more than ten years ago, when London faced an identical spate of knife crime and violence at the beginning of my first term as Mayor. We can do it again.

‘I want to drive down the murder rate and youth violence. With the help of my then Deputy Mayor, Kit Malthouse, we did it before. Kit is now Policing Minister, and we will do it again.

‘I want us to close down the evil ‘county lines’ drugs gangs that have done so much to spread knife and gun crime to hitherto innocent towns and communities, and I want the key gang members arrested and put away. We did it before and we can do it again.’

Anyone with any information is urged to call police on 101 or contact Crimestoppers anonymously on 0800 555 111.

Twitter

10 Sep '19

MPSSydenham

11 Sep '19

Sydenham SNT are back on duty today. I’m sure you’ve heard of the shooting in Sydenham Road, we will be on patrol in the area so please stop us if you have any concerns or you have any info about the incident.

SE26.life

27 Sep '19

Case closed:

anon3821395

1 Nov '19

A 25-year-old died on Venner Road last month from gunshot wounds after an apparent attempt to shoot another person backfired.

Daniel Newhouse and Tai Simpson, both 22, have been charged with possession of a firearm with intent to cause fear of violence and possession of another firearm.

Simpson was also charged with threatening a person with a blade or sharply pointed article in a public place.

Tarique Williams, also 22, of no fixed abode, has been charged with attempted murder and possession of a firearm with intent to cause fear of violence.

Police declared the 25-year-old’s death to be ‘non-suspicious’.

Witnesses in the area said they had heard reports the man had accidentally shot himself.

A 56-year-old woman living on Venner Road said: "He came to shoot someone else, but he ended up shooting himself.

"The bullet bounced off a car window. You can see on the car window where the bullet bounced off it.

“After it happened, the boy he came to shoot stood there filming him.”

ForestHull

4 Dec '20

It looks like this case has now come to court: